What is the best way to use a SignalR service for my Blazor RenderMode.InteractiveServer app?

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What is the best way to use a SignalR service for my Blazor RenderMode.InteractiveServer app?

David Thielen 3,216

Hi all;

I've read in numerous places that having my Blazor server use a SignalR service will let it handle a lot more simultaneous requests. So I want to add this. I've seen three very different ways describing how to do this:

I like option 3 best because it seems like a very clean way to accomplish this. But that does not mean it's the optimum approach.

So which is the optimum approach?

thanks - dave

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Bruce (SqlWork.com) 82,146 Volunteer Moderator

your question is not clear. does your Blazor app use signal/r for features not related to the Blazor Server circuit (example a chat app)? that what your links 1 & 2 refers to.

the standard configuration is each webserver hosting your Blazor app is also the Signal/r Hub. But it can be configured to use the Azure Signal/r service (your link 3).

using Azure Signal/R for the Blazor circuit has a couple pros:

it's a large farm and can handle a lot of connections (large scaling)
its geographical, so the client may have a faster connection, less latency
allow more connections if web host limits the number of websockets (ex: azure service apps). this is probably the main reason to use Azure Signal/R

it also has some cons:

its a separate service so may add latency, especially for on-prem servers.
additional cost.

Blazor server interactive will never match the scaling/performance of client interactive, except perhaps startup performance.

in Blazor server interactive, every event is detected by JavaScript, sent to the server. the server process the event, and build a new render tree, a datagram of the render tree changes its sent to the client. the client updates its copy of the render tree, and then updates the browser dom. If your Blazor app was event tracking each character or mouse move, it's a trip to the server and back for each event.

David Thielen 3,216 Reputation points

2024-07-09T21:28:04.66+00:00

@Bruce (SqlWork.com) Yes, as a front end to the Blazor server app. Approach #3 seemed like the best approach too. But there are places where discussing creating a SignalR front end, they reference those first 2 approaches. Thanks for clearing this up.
Bruce (SqlWork.com) 82,146 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator

2024-07-09T22:41:12.32+00:00

from your other posts, it seems like you are trying to make the Blazor app snappier. adding azure signal/r will not do this for low number of users. its use is in scaling up past 500 or more concurrent users.

to make snapper, reduce the events sent to the server, and avoid component re-renders.

https://quic.hkg1.meaqua.org/en-us/aspnet/core/blazor/performance?view=aspnetcore-8.0
David Thielen 3,216 Reputation points

2024-07-09T22:52:58.2433333+00:00

@Bruce (SqlWork.com) Thank you for that number. It may be awhile until we hit that so I'll put this off until we are very successful.

thanks - dave

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